The gentlemen who began this thread made a severe doctrinal adjustment based upon a formal fallacy.
His writings reflect the following argument:
Those who gladly received the word were baptized
Therefore, all who were baptized gladly received the word
The argument reduces to the formal fallacy of asserting the consequent:
If someone gladly received the word, then someone was baptized
Someone was baptized
Therefore, someone gladly received the word
Ron
Ron, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.
Acts 2:41 41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls.
Does anyone come to faith in Christ without receiving (gladly) the gospel? Can anyone receive the gospel without coming to faith? In light of 1 Cor. 2:14 the answer to both questions is, "no." Does everyone who is baptized receive the gospel? No. The context of this passage is about those who have received the gospel and were baptized. Receiving the gospel is the condition that qualifies both baptism and those who were baptized.
The gospel cannot be held captive to a logical equation. Look at the Law and Gospel thread, especially the comments of Matthew Winzer. It think it will add clarity to the discussion.
What precisely is the Baptist trying to argue except inference when they state that, in effect, all of the examples you have of Baptisms are of Believers. This is a logical conclusion.
As Ron pointed out, it is proper inference to assert that those that gladly receive the Word are proper recipients of baptism but it does not follow that if a person is the proper recipient of baptism that they gladly receive the Word.
Rich, is Ron exegeting Acts 2:41 or turning it into philosophical fodder? That passage is referring to believers without equivocation. We have the benefit of reading inspired scripture that eliminates any doubt that those being written about were saved.
Earlier in this thread I told you that I do not hold to perfect knowledge. Regardless of the sign or its significance, none of us know with certainty whether the baptizee is saved. This thread ran out of gas last week, so I took that to mean that we've all said our piece and are content to move on to other things for the time being. That was fine with me until Ron made his post and pulled out of Acts 2:41 what I don't believe is there.