A.J.
Puritan Board Junior
Greetings,
I am doing a study on Reformed church government and I have already seen the case for the session/consistory, the presbytery/classis and the general assembly/synod, and quite convinced of the Biblical evidence. I have already seen as well the basis for the ruling elder from texts like Rom. 12:6-8, 1 Cor. 12:28 and especially 1 Tim. 5:17. Little did I know that there is a vast amount of literature that has been written on this subject (many of which can be read online) until last year. And I have been benefiting from the links in this forum provided by some of the members of the Puritan Board.
But I would like to clarfiy some issues though.
1. People who reject the existence of a ruling elder as a separate office point to Acts 20:17, 28 and 1 Peter 5:1-4. They argue that since the elders/overseers in these texts are commanded to shepherd the church of God, then it follows that both Paul and Peter do not see any distinction among elders who both rule and preach on the one hand, and elders who rule only. All the elders/overseers thus are also ministers/pastors since they are exhorted to do the work of shepherding. How does the case for the ruling elder fit into these texts?
2. In 1 Tim. 3:1ff. (cf. Titus 1:5-9), it is said that one of qualifications for the office of the elder/overseer is that a man who desires to enter the office should be "able to teach." Based on this text, it is believed by some that Paul sees all elders in principle as being involved in both ruling and teaching in public worship. I was reading a book which was written as an attempt to refute the belief that the ruling elder is a separate office from that of the teaching elder. One of the authors of that book apparently sees 1 Tim. 3:2 as a verse that should guide us in interpreting 1 Tim. 5:17. Because of 1 Tim. 3:2, he thinks that 1 Tim. 5:17 does not mean what those who believe in the existence of a ruling elder as a separate office think what it means.
3. Do Reformed churches which subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity and confessional membership require their members to hold to the Three-Office View? In other words, will they not allow a person who sees the distinction between the minister/pastor and elder (cf. Belgic Confession Article 30) as simply a difference in function and not in office to be admitted into their membership? Or put differently, does the Belgic Confession require a strict Three-Office View? I am asking this because the Reformed congregation where I am currently attending and undergoing a catechism/membership class subscribes to the Three Forms of Unity and to confessional membership.
4. Do Reformed churches in the Continental tradition also see the individual churches in the Bible (e.g., the church in Jerusalem, Acts 8:1) as being composed of more than one congregation too (as Reformed churches in the Presbyterian tradition do)? It seems to me that the way Reformed denominations/federations are named has to do with some nuances on this issue. (Correct me if I am wrong.) Presbyterian denominations tend to go by the name "Church" (e.g., Orthodox Presbyterian Church) while those in the Continental tradition tend to go by the name "Churches" (e.g., United Reformed Churches in North America).
5. Do American Presbyterian churches which subscribe to the American version of the Westminster Standards allow men who subscribe to the original Westminster Standards to hold office?
I am new to this very interesting subject. So please bear with me if I do not see things the way many of you (who have been Reformed believers for many years) see them.
Thank you.
Blessings,
I am doing a study on Reformed church government and I have already seen the case for the session/consistory, the presbytery/classis and the general assembly/synod, and quite convinced of the Biblical evidence. I have already seen as well the basis for the ruling elder from texts like Rom. 12:6-8, 1 Cor. 12:28 and especially 1 Tim. 5:17. Little did I know that there is a vast amount of literature that has been written on this subject (many of which can be read online) until last year. And I have been benefiting from the links in this forum provided by some of the members of the Puritan Board.
But I would like to clarfiy some issues though.
1. People who reject the existence of a ruling elder as a separate office point to Acts 20:17, 28 and 1 Peter 5:1-4. They argue that since the elders/overseers in these texts are commanded to shepherd the church of God, then it follows that both Paul and Peter do not see any distinction among elders who both rule and preach on the one hand, and elders who rule only. All the elders/overseers thus are also ministers/pastors since they are exhorted to do the work of shepherding. How does the case for the ruling elder fit into these texts?
2. In 1 Tim. 3:1ff. (cf. Titus 1:5-9), it is said that one of qualifications for the office of the elder/overseer is that a man who desires to enter the office should be "able to teach." Based on this text, it is believed by some that Paul sees all elders in principle as being involved in both ruling and teaching in public worship. I was reading a book which was written as an attempt to refute the belief that the ruling elder is a separate office from that of the teaching elder. One of the authors of that book apparently sees 1 Tim. 3:2 as a verse that should guide us in interpreting 1 Tim. 5:17. Because of 1 Tim. 3:2, he thinks that 1 Tim. 5:17 does not mean what those who believe in the existence of a ruling elder as a separate office think what it means.
3. Do Reformed churches which subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity and confessional membership require their members to hold to the Three-Office View? In other words, will they not allow a person who sees the distinction between the minister/pastor and elder (cf. Belgic Confession Article 30) as simply a difference in function and not in office to be admitted into their membership? Or put differently, does the Belgic Confession require a strict Three-Office View? I am asking this because the Reformed congregation where I am currently attending and undergoing a catechism/membership class subscribes to the Three Forms of Unity and to confessional membership.
4. Do Reformed churches in the Continental tradition also see the individual churches in the Bible (e.g., the church in Jerusalem, Acts 8:1) as being composed of more than one congregation too (as Reformed churches in the Presbyterian tradition do)? It seems to me that the way Reformed denominations/federations are named has to do with some nuances on this issue. (Correct me if I am wrong.) Presbyterian denominations tend to go by the name "Church" (e.g., Orthodox Presbyterian Church) while those in the Continental tradition tend to go by the name "Churches" (e.g., United Reformed Churches in North America).
5. Do American Presbyterian churches which subscribe to the American version of the Westminster Standards allow men who subscribe to the original Westminster Standards to hold office?
I am new to this very interesting subject. So please bear with me if I do not see things the way many of you (who have been Reformed believers for many years) see them.
Thank you.
Blessings,