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For context, I'm a member of the PCA, so I'm very interested in how this question would be answered by our understanding of ecclesiology specifically. But I'm interested in other perspectives as well.
Clearly, all members of a local church who aren't ordained are laypeople, and any ministry in which they engage is by necessity "lay ministry." Just as clearly, no pastor/teaching elder is a lay-person and is certainly clergy.
But what about ruling elders? Thomas Witherow, in "The Apostolic Church: Which Is It?," contends that ruling elders must not be termed laymen[1]:
In Witherow's context (late 19th century Ireland) the concept of "lay elders" was used by Episcopalians to cast aspersions on the idea of a church leader that's not serving the church as a full-time vocation. Is the term "lay elder" appropriate in a modern context, or does that disparage the office? Also, in the PCA, ruling elders are ordained by the local session and not the Presbytery, so that might make a difference.
If ruling elders are not laymen, does that make them clergy, or are they in neither category? Do the ruling elders engage in "lay ministry" because they're not full-time professional/vocational elders? (Witherow suggests that even the Apostle Paul was engaged in secular pursuits, which would have made him a "lay elder" or engaged in "lay ministry" by this definition-- Acts 18:3, 1 Thess. 2:9.)
More from Witherow:
The PCA BCO doesn't mention laypeople or laity or even "unordained" (except for the text of an overture that isn't yet approved). So I'm curious what the general approach might be. I would suggest that laypeople are only those who aren't ordained, so no elder or deacon fits in that category. But maybe the clergy is only teaching elders and all other church members are laypeople (regardless of ordination)? Or maybe ordained officers might not be laymen but their avocational work for the church is still "lay ministry"?
I know, not a very specific question and answers are likely to be just as muddy. But I'm curious to hear confessional thoughts on the matter.
[1] Witherow, Thomas. I Will Build My Church: Selected Writings on Church Polity, Baptism, and the Sabbath (Library of Presbyterian Classics Book 1) (p. 175-176). Westminster Seminary Press. Kindle Edition.
Clearly, all members of a local church who aren't ordained are laypeople, and any ministry in which they engage is by necessity "lay ministry." Just as clearly, no pastor/teaching elder is a lay-person and is certainly clergy.
But what about ruling elders? Thomas Witherow, in "The Apostolic Church: Which Is It?," contends that ruling elders must not be termed laymen[1]:
And a bit later:No elder of any kind is a layman, but an ecclesiastical office-bearer, ordained with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery, and appointed to the oversight of the flock and to the discharge of spiritual duties.
There are in our church courts no lay representatives and no lay elders—a name which ignorance invented and malevolence has preserved, in order to bring the office into contempt and disrepute.
In Witherow's context (late 19th century Ireland) the concept of "lay elders" was used by Episcopalians to cast aspersions on the idea of a church leader that's not serving the church as a full-time vocation. Is the term "lay elder" appropriate in a modern context, or does that disparage the office? Also, in the PCA, ruling elders are ordained by the local session and not the Presbytery, so that might make a difference.
If ruling elders are not laymen, does that make them clergy, or are they in neither category? Do the ruling elders engage in "lay ministry" because they're not full-time professional/vocational elders? (Witherow suggests that even the Apostle Paul was engaged in secular pursuits, which would have made him a "lay elder" or engaged in "lay ministry" by this definition-- Acts 18:3, 1 Thess. 2:9.)
More from Witherow:
The disparity existing among teaching and ruling elders among Presbyterians, instead of being defended, is very much to be lamented, and ought as much as possible to be removed. This is to be done, however, not by lowering the teaching elder, but by elevating the ruling elder[.]
The PCA BCO doesn't mention laypeople or laity or even "unordained" (except for the text of an overture that isn't yet approved). So I'm curious what the general approach might be. I would suggest that laypeople are only those who aren't ordained, so no elder or deacon fits in that category. But maybe the clergy is only teaching elders and all other church members are laypeople (regardless of ordination)? Or maybe ordained officers might not be laymen but their avocational work for the church is still "lay ministry"?
I know, not a very specific question and answers are likely to be just as muddy. But I'm curious to hear confessional thoughts on the matter.
[1] Witherow, Thomas. I Will Build My Church: Selected Writings on Church Polity, Baptism, and the Sabbath (Library of Presbyterian Classics Book 1) (p. 175-176). Westminster Seminary Press. Kindle Edition.