Matthew1344
Puritan Board Sophomore
I am a Calvinist. And I believe God is sovereign over all things all the time in total control.
i am right now reading "The Death of Death in the Death of Christ: John Owen". Because of this I have really been trying to unpack more the doctrine of definite atonement. My desire it to exegetically have a defense for passages in scripture that Arminians try to use to prove that Christ's died for all individual men and paid the penalty for ever individual sinners sin.
Does "many" in v.15 mean "every individual" or is it "all types of people" "or does it mean "elect", as in the elect used to be dead because of adams fall?
Does "all" in v.18 mean "all kinds of men" or "elect"?
Does "many" in v.19 mean "all kinds of men" or elect"?
Please tell me what you think about the way I am interpreting these verses.
Romans 5:15-19
But the free gift is not like the trespass.
Ok. So there is something different about the trespass of Adam and the free gift from Christ. It is much more powerful, that is the difference.
For if many died
Is the "many" here supposed to be "every individual on the earth" or "many kinds of men"? I am going to say "Many kinds of men"
through one man's trespass,
Adams sin
much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Much more power is in the grace of God than there is death found in Adam's trespass.
abounded for many.
exists for the "many nations, types of people"
And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin.
Same as before. Adam's trespass brought death, but Christ's righteousness brought much more life.
For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation,
Adam' trespass brought death.
but the free gift
Free gift is salvation
following many trespasses
Our sins.
brought justification.
God's salvation through the work of the cross, purchased justification before God.
For if, because of one man's trespass,
Adams trespass.
death reigned through that one man,
Sin spread and made man dead to the things of God.
much more
Christ's work is much more powerful than the death Adam brought. So, if Adam's death brought -10 Christ's act brought +20.
will those who receive
Elect.
the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
Everything Christ purchased and secured on the cross for his elect will reign in our lives through faith in Christ, which even our faith was purchased and given to us by God.
Therefore,
Because of Christ's work being more powerful than the trespass of Adam.
as one trespass led to condemnation
Adam's trespass led to death
for all men,
all kinds of men?
so one act of righteousness
Christ's life, death, resurrection or is it more specifically the great exchange at the cross?
leads to justification and life
Salvation
for all men.
All kinds of men?
For as by the one man's disobedience
Adam's trespass
the many were made sinners,
All kinds of men
so by the one man's obedience
Christ's work
the many
All kinds of people
will be made righteous.
Forgiven and Justified before God.
I know that this is a lot, but I have been wrestling what was the meaning of this particular text for about 1 1/2 weeks now, and I still am not positive.
Please help, it would be GREATLY appreciated.
i am right now reading "The Death of Death in the Death of Christ: John Owen". Because of this I have really been trying to unpack more the doctrine of definite atonement. My desire it to exegetically have a defense for passages in scripture that Arminians try to use to prove that Christ's died for all individual men and paid the penalty for ever individual sinners sin.
Does "many" in v.15 mean "every individual" or is it "all types of people" "or does it mean "elect", as in the elect used to be dead because of adams fall?
Does "all" in v.18 mean "all kinds of men" or "elect"?
Does "many" in v.19 mean "all kinds of men" or elect"?
Please tell me what you think about the way I am interpreting these verses.
Romans 5:15-19
But the free gift is not like the trespass.
Ok. So there is something different about the trespass of Adam and the free gift from Christ. It is much more powerful, that is the difference.
For if many died
Is the "many" here supposed to be "every individual on the earth" or "many kinds of men"? I am going to say "Many kinds of men"
through one man's trespass,
Adams sin
much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Much more power is in the grace of God than there is death found in Adam's trespass.
abounded for many.
exists for the "many nations, types of people"
And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin.
Same as before. Adam's trespass brought death, but Christ's righteousness brought much more life.
For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation,
Adam' trespass brought death.
but the free gift
Free gift is salvation
following many trespasses
Our sins.
brought justification.
God's salvation through the work of the cross, purchased justification before God.
For if, because of one man's trespass,
Adams trespass.
death reigned through that one man,
Sin spread and made man dead to the things of God.
much more
Christ's work is much more powerful than the death Adam brought. So, if Adam's death brought -10 Christ's act brought +20.
will those who receive
Elect.
the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
Everything Christ purchased and secured on the cross for his elect will reign in our lives through faith in Christ, which even our faith was purchased and given to us by God.
Therefore,
Because of Christ's work being more powerful than the trespass of Adam.
as one trespass led to condemnation
Adam's trespass led to death
for all men,
all kinds of men?
so one act of righteousness
Christ's life, death, resurrection or is it more specifically the great exchange at the cross?
leads to justification and life
Salvation
for all men.
All kinds of men?
For as by the one man's disobedience
Adam's trespass
the many were made sinners,
All kinds of men
so by the one man's obedience
Christ's work
the many
All kinds of people
will be made righteous.
Forgiven and Justified before God.
I know that this is a lot, but I have been wrestling what was the meaning of this particular text for about 1 1/2 weeks now, and I still am not positive.
Please help, it would be GREATLY appreciated.