Puritans Woke Up Early

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A few examples:

Joseph Alleine -- Rose early to engage in private worship between 4 and 8 am. His wife said that he "would be much troubled if he heard smiths or other craftsmen at work at their trades, before he was at communion with God: saying to me often, 'How this noise shames me! Doth not my Master deserve more than theirs?'"

William Gouge -- At King's College, Cambridge, he participated in chapel prayer services every morning at 5:00 am.

Matthew Poole -- Rose each morning at 4:00 am to study, ate a raw egg at 8:30 am and another at noon.

Samuel Rutherford -- Rose at 3:00 am each day for private worship and meditation.
 
I would really wish that I had the disciplin needed to do that but I am more of a stay up late kind of guy. which you can see by the fact that it is now 2:30 in the morning in Denmark and I have not been to bed yet.
 
Easier to do if you're a morning person, which I am not...There must have been a lot of morning people in those days...
 
bookslover said:
Easier to do if you're a morning person, which I am not...There must have been a lot of morning people in those days...
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They didn't stay up watching TV or posting on the Puritanboard like I do.

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Thanks Andrew.

This is a great quote.

"would be much troubled if he heard smiths or other craftsmen at work at their trades, before he was at communion with God: saying to me often, 'How this noise shames me! Doth not my Master deserve more than theirs?"
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Backwoods Presbyterian said:
All without the assistance of electric lighting... :2cents:
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Yeah, I've always wondered how people were sure to get up by certain times before there were alarm clocks... I just really can't wrap my mind around that one.

Thanks for the Alleine quote; I surely wish I had more discipline and drive at times.
 
I also wonder whether people in those days went to bed at a significantly earlier hour than we do. Once it got dark there was not a whole lot you could do, except what was possible by candlelight. Also, no TV or other entertainment to keep you up.

I know I've read articles that claim that people got significantly more sleep in the days before the invention of the electric light.
 
Backwoods Presbyterian said:
Ex Nihilo said:
Backwoods Presbyterian said:
All without the assistance of electric lighting... :2cents:
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I think that would make it easier rather than harder. Without electric lighting, it would be more natural to fall asleep soon after sunset, and to wake up 7-8 hours later -- quite early in the morning.
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Agree 100%
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It's so difficult to enjoy the benefits of technology without feeling like we're losing quality of life, discipline, and patience.
 
Often when listening to the White Horse Inn I would rather be at the White Horse Inn. Going :offtopic: but this is why I cannot ever finish any of Neil Postman's books (or Allan Bloom's masterpiece). I get so depressed it hurts.
 
Ex Nihilo said:
Backwoods Presbyterian said:
Ex Nihilo said:
I think that would make it easier rather than harder. Without electric lighting, it would be more natural to fall asleep soon after sunset, and to wake up 7-8 hours later -- quite early in the morning.
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Agree 100%
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It's so difficult to enjoy the benefits of technology without feeling like we're losing quality of life, discipline, and patience.
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I really don't want to quibble, but if we assume that nowadays we wake up later because we sleep later, I don't think there is any inherent loss as long as those additional hours in the night are productively used.
 
satz said:
Ex Nihilo said:
Backwoods Presbyterian said:
Agree 100%
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It's so difficult to enjoy the benefits of technology without feeling like we're losing quality of life, discipline, and patience.
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I really don't want to quibble, but if we assume that nowadays we wake up later because we sleep later, I don't think there is any inherent loss as long as those additional hours in the night are productively used.
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I'm not sure about others, but for me, the morning hours tend to be more productively used, if I'm awake. Also, I'm not sure about the science behind this, but I think we probably need some natural sunlight for good emotional health.
 
I am shamed everytime I read about how they did things like getting up in the morning. I battle slothfullness. We are supposed to be like the bee and the ant. I just read Alleine's bio the other day. He was hardcore.
 
I'm also not so sure that they got 8 hours of sleep. Reading Richard Baxter, he seems to equate sleeping past 5-6 hours with weakness...and even slothfulness.
 
And so should you. :) And they weren't the only ones. Here are some examples from the Scriptures of rising early:

"Then Joshua rose early in the morning." (Josh 3:1)

"Then King Hezekiah rose early, gathered the rulers of the city, and went up to the house of the Lord." (2 Chron 29:20)

"She also rises when it is yet night." (Prov. 31:15)

"Now in the morning, having risen a long while before daylight, He went out and departed to a solitary place; and there He prayed." (Mark 1:35)

"Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen." (Mark 16:2)

Here are some more found simply by searching "rose early" in the NKJV. Other verses could be cited that are worded a little differently. But it's closing in on 3:15 am here. Is that late, or is it just very early? :lol: Regardless, I need to get to bed. :judge:
 
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Ahhh... Proof the Puritans were crazy!!!

Honestly, I think anyone that gets up that early is crazy.

*sigh*

I wish I was a morning person. I'm a huge night person. My brain doesn't actually turn on until after noon... :)
 
It's not so much discipline - it's called lack of electricity. I wake up early too when I lack electricity, and go to bed a lot earlier too. We shouldn't think there's is anything holier about rising early than late, we should focus on what is actually accomplished during those hours.

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larryjf said:
I'm also not so sure that they got 8 hours of sleep. Reading Richard Baxter, he seems to equate sleeping past 5-6 hours with weakness...and even slothfulness.
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The Puritans need to read the current medical journals: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/24/health/research/24sleep.html?_r=1&ref=health

The general principle I see in Scripture about equating rising early with good spirituality is that it shows that one is living intentionally rather than merely spinning his wheels and wasting his days. But this can also be fulfilled by staying up late....and if one does this, they need to sleep in in order to be good stewards of their temple.
 
My wife and I get up at 4-4:30 am. It's partly driven by when we need to be at work, but also because by God's grace we've valued getting time in the Word prior to the time we need to be at work. I think Pergamum hits it right on the head: it's not the matter of time, but the heart of living an intentional life to the Lord. Our flesh leads us to do what's convenient, the Spirit leads us to live with devotion, which means being intentional about every thought and deed, and redeeming the time unto the Lord.
 
I'm usually up between 0400 and 0430 every day. What has been said about the more natural sleeping rhythms in an area with electrical lighting is very true. Been there, done that, almost do it know about half the time.

it also helps if you are raised in a situation that demands early rising. I haven't had to chore animals in years. But, I still get up early enough to do so. And I usually turn of the alarm long before it goes off. The internal clock is a strong device. I believe I read that somewhere else. :)
 
From what I understand, there was no standardization of time until much later -- each town would set its clocks differently. So I don't think we can really know what time these folks were getting up.

It doesn't make sense that people were getting up as much as 3 hours before daylight (in the winter) because it would have been expensive in a time when families would have scrapped candle wax off of holders to reuse again. In agrarian communities, it remained common until into the 20th century to get up each day just early enough to prepare and eat breakfast (women first!) and get the animals prepared to work, so everyone would be ready to go right as light was available.

I'm not doubting that people showed incredible piety and disipline in their personal and family devotions, but I've been thinking about this ever since reading Mr. Marsden's biography on Mr. Edwards and that family's practice of getting up in the 4 something range too.
 
I think we have many myths about the past.

When it comes to Christian history, we take the practices of a few and norm it for all and make "Golden Ages"or mistakenly think about the "Good ol' days."

People in general without electricity, especially agrarian societies, rose at dawn and slept at dark. I do the same when I have to... praise God for electricity. I am a night owl by nature, but everytime I go interior, by day 3 I am up at 5am. This lasts about 3 days when I return home,and then I am going to bed again at 3am.
 
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The general principle I see in Scripture about equating rising early with good spirituality is that it shows that one is living intentionally rather than merely spinning his wheels and wasting his days.
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Not only 'intentionally' but doing the difficult work for/with God. It takes no effort to get up early to do the fun stuff, but only by the grace of God can I get up early to do the stuff that doesn't feed my flesh.

Ps 5:1-3 Give ear to my words, O LORD, consider my meditation. Hearken unto the voice of my cry, my King, and my God: for unto thee will I pray. My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct [my prayer] unto thee, and will look up.
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There's something nice about reading a book by oil lamp. We have incandescent Aladdin lamps in our home. They give off a wonderful warm light that is very pleasant and easy on the eyes. For some reason I love to sit under one and read. But, oil used to be quite expensive.

We've found evening devotions to be less consistent over the years, so have turned our attention more fully to morning devotions. This keep us all on the same schedule and is a tremendous blessing as we gather around God's Word consistently.

I've found that you can be whatever kind of person you want to be (morning, evening, night owl). I used to be up just before daylight every day, sometimes earlier. Then I worked evenings and learned to sleep after the sun came up. The construction work in AZ demanded being at work before sunrise. I've worked graves and split shifts. Graves are harder to get used to, and splits probably impossible. The internal clock has nothing to hold on to.
We can all change our internal clocks. It's a matter of desire and conditioning. If one thinks they will be more productive and honor and glorify God to a greater degree then all they have to do is, to borrow from Nike, "just do it." We all have a degree of difficulty in this, but if one is convicted and fails to pursue what they deem right then they are not overcoming, or even struggling, they are succumbing. I find myself in the third category all too often. May God strengthen me to do what I am convinced is right.
 
Ex Nihilo said:
Backwoods Presbyterian said:
Ex Nihilo said:
I think that would make it easier rather than harder. Without electric lighting, it would be more natural to fall asleep soon after sunset, and to wake up 7-8 hours later -- quite early in the morning.
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Agree 100%
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It's so difficult to enjoy the benefits of technology without feeling like we're losing quality of life, discipline, and patience.
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Quality of life, discipline and patience is no better in cultures without electric lighting.

From what I have seen, it is worse.

It takes quite a bit of discipline and patience to master technology, something much of the world has not yet done.


Let's not romanticise pre-modern technology or become PB-Luddites here. I advance my own technology every chance I get.




Reading by oil lamp is only fine when in select areas of the world and in a home that is otherwise blessed by modern technology.

Stick yourself reading by oil lamp in a poorly made 3rd world house with flammable paint and no screen despite tropical insects and your night-time reading will be a non-stop swatting of gnats and will be anything but relaxing. Plus, there are dangers to lamps and this is why when we have a fire in one house in a small midwestern town, it makes major news, but half of a village can burn down in the Third World and no one bats an eye.
 
Our illustrious government has helped turn us into a nation of non-morning persons. "Daylight Saving Time" is now in affect nearly 2/3 of the year.

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Pergamum said:
Reading by oil lamp is only fine when in select areas of the world and in a home that is otherwise blessed by modern technology. [Absolutely]

Stick yourself reading by oil lamp in a poorly made 3rd world house with flammable paint and no screen despite tropical insects and your night-time reading will be a non-stop swatting of gnats and will be anything but relaxing. Plus, there are dangers to lamps and this is why when we have a fire in one house in a small midwestern town, it makes major news, but half of a village can burn down in the Third World and no one bats an eye.
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I hope I didn't come about as promoting the practice as some sort of virtue. I was just sharing in something I enjoy as an offhand comment. If I HAD to do it in order to read at night it would no longer be a luxury, but a chore. I'd probably just go to bed for both rest, and to avoid the expense. I praise God for the choice, fire alarms, fire extinguishers, fire retardant building products, screens, dual pane windows, phones, a fire department and 911. These all change one's perspective.

We like to grind our own wheat too. But I'd sure hate to have to; and without electricity...


Sorry for getting off track. Back to the O.P.
 
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