"Maneti," "Somosateno," and "Schuelfedio"

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Christusregnat

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Howdy y'all,

Beza mentions a list of anti-Trinitarian or otherwise heretical persons or parties, among which are (in Latin):

"Maneti," "Somosateno," and "Schuelfedio"

I have an idea about the second being the "Samosatians", but am clueless about the Maneti and the Schuelfedio. Any ideas?

Cheers,
 
No idea at all, Adam, but it's good to see you posting. Welcome to the Old Dominion. Hope you folks are getting settled in and enjoying a beautiful spring in our little valley.
 
Brad,

Indeed, we are settling in quite nicely! We found our own place in Dayton, and our neighbors consist of corn fields and pasture land :-)

The spring is nice; I'm particularly gratified with how the humidity actually makes it feel cooler when it's in the 75 - 85 degree range. In California, there was no mitigation for the heat.

Cheers,
 
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Not sure of the others; try Manetti with two Ts. He may have been one of the Italian Anti Trinitarians. There's a book on Calvin and the Italian anti Trinitarians.
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Thanks Chris!

I'm actually thinking that the context Beza places the "Maneti" in would be more fitting for Manichaeans. A Latin term for Mani was Manes, so those of Manes might fit with the word Maneti. Beza places him in a list of heretics, in which he is preceded by Apollinari, and followed by Marcioni.

Any ideas on the "Schuelfedio"? They are preceded by Servetus and followed by the Mennonites in Beza's list, so I'm guessing 16th Century Anabaptist or Anti-Trinitarian...

Cheers,
 
You may be right then. I will say the most trouble I've had running down references are to heretics I've never heard of. Right now I'm running down quite literally a thousand references for Gillespie's Popish Ceremonies and happily not many obscure heretics there; mainly mainstream reformed, papists and prelates etc. and a sprinkling of obscurities.
 
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I'll probably end up saying something like: "Samosatians were a sect of quasi-Jewish Gnostics and were anti-Trinitarian"
 
Schuelfedio sounds like the Schwenkfelders, an Anabaptistic and heretical sect of the 16th century. I have never heard it termed as you have cited.
 
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Christusregnat said:
Howdy y'all,

Beza mentions a list of anti-Trinitarian or otherwise heretical persons or parties, among which are (in Latin):

"Maneti," "Somosateno," and "Schuelfedio"

I have an idea about the second being the "Samosatians", but am clueless about the Maneti and the Schuelfedio. Any ideas?

Cheers,
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Well, I know a Manetta, but he's a rock solid Reformed Baptist :p

Could he mean Giannozzo Manetti?

From Wikipedia:

Giannozzo Manetti was a Florentine politician and diplomat, and also a significant humanist scholar of the early Italian Renaissance

He was a Latinist and a translator of Greek; he also studied Hebrew so that he could read the Hebrew Bible and the rabbinic commentaries. These readings convinced him that the Bible needed translation anew from the early manuscripts. After his death, Manetti's sizable library found its way into the Biblioteca Vaticana.


Here are some excerpts from his writings.

He had a real problem with original sin, it appears.
 
Marie,

Thanks for the suggestion! The figure did come up for consideration, but I passed on him, as the context is that Beza is dealing with specifically anti-Trinitarian or Christological heretics or heretical movements, and Maneti is listed after Apolinarians and before Marcionites, locating this figure in the first four centuries of Church history by the context.

Thank you again for your suggestion.

Cheers,
 
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