Luther and security of the believer

[Notthemama1984]

Therefore it is necessary to know and teach that when holy people--aside from the fact that they still have and feel original sin and also daily repent of it and struggle against it--somehow fall into a public sin (such as David, who fell into adultery, murder, and blasphemy against God), at that point faith and the Spirit have departed.

Do Lutherans still believe that one could lose their salvation?

I also find it interesting that this quote is part of an article pointing out how penance and indulgences offer no security because no one can no if they are contrite enough, have paid enough, or done enough penance. I would add, "how does the Lutheran know that he has not performed too many sins and lost the faith?"

 

[Notthemama1984]

That is a shame.

 

[Reformed Roman]

That's odd. From my understanding, Lutherans don't believe in baptismal regeneration. I grew up in a church that taught you had to be baptized to be saved, and at baptism alone were you regenerated. From what I understood about Lutherans. This is a guess here but I thought Lutherans believed that you lose the sinful nature at baptism? Or something of that nature.

And are you sure Lutherans believe that are baptized are regenerated and in turn never go astray?

From everything I know, Lutherans just deny Perseverance of the Saints, while believing in election. It's a little contradictory, but they will go with the scripture on it.

I hope some brothers can correct my understanding here.

 

[Notthemama1984]

From Luther's catechism

What gifts or benefits does baptism grant?
Answer:
It brings about forgiveness of sins, redeems from death and the devil, and gives eternal salvation to all who believe it, as the words and promise of God declare.