nuclear_calvinist
Puritan Board Freshman
Has anyone been interested in the Provisionist/Traditionalist use of Ken Wilson's work? His work is becoming very popular and spreading to other groups, such as Mormons, who quote his work as conclusive proof that Augustine infected Christianity with Manichaean theology. That's why I feel it's important to address it rather than just wave it away.
Ken Wilson has been pushing the idea that Augustine had introduced his previous Manichaean theology into the Christian church. His book, "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism," based on his dissertation presented to Oxford for his DPhil degree, has made a huge splash in the Provisionist/Traditionalist (a la Leighton Flowers) community as well as those who are just desirous to see the end of Calvinism in general.
Basically, Wilson claims in his book that Augustine introduced a novelty into the Christian tradition as to the reason infant baptism must be performed (namely, to cleanse from original sin and save them from the punishment of hell). He admitted in his book that infant baptism was practiced prior to Augustine, but that it was more of a "baby dedication" type practice but no one really knew why they should do it. He also claims that Augustine introduced determinism into Christianity based on what he was taught and believed as a Manichaean, and since Calvinism is a form of modern Augustinianism, Calvinism is based on gnosticism. In a video, Wilson claims, "At the end of my book, I list all of the Scriptures used by the Manichaeans to support their doctrines. And guess which ones they are? They’re the very ones the Calvinists use today." (link to video: Was Augustine the first to introduce "CALVINISM" into the Church?)
Meanwhile, Thuyen Tran, a Lutheran who has done a lot of work in studying the early fathers, has posted quite frequently on his personal Facebook page debunking many of the claims made in Dr. Wilson's dissertation (which was the basis for his book) and shown that many of the sources he claimed said one thing actually end up saying something else, or even the exact opposite.
In response, Wilson appeared on Leighton Flowers' program (link: Dr. Ken Wilson is Back!) and interacts with Thuyen's arguments at about 20:45 into the program. For the first part of the program, they basically mock most of the reviews for his book on the Amazon store page from any random person, then move on to address Thuyen's arguments. At that point, he criticizes Thuyen for not having the same academic degrees or not publishing in peer-reviewed academic journals for a minimum of several minutes before even getting to the arguments. Then Thuyen was criticized for having writing mistakes (without either knowing or acknowledging that English is a second language for him), commenting that he wouldn't make these kind of "sophomoric" mistakes if he had received proper academic training. They also laugh at him for writing more than 50 paragraphs (I don't know if that's literal or being hyperbolic) in response to Dr. Wilson's claims in his book. Wilson and Flowers then rebut strawmen of Thuyen's arguments and not his actual arguments.
(contd.)
Ken Wilson has been pushing the idea that Augustine had introduced his previous Manichaean theology into the Christian church. His book, "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism," based on his dissertation presented to Oxford for his DPhil degree, has made a huge splash in the Provisionist/Traditionalist (a la Leighton Flowers) community as well as those who are just desirous to see the end of Calvinism in general.
Basically, Wilson claims in his book that Augustine introduced a novelty into the Christian tradition as to the reason infant baptism must be performed (namely, to cleanse from original sin and save them from the punishment of hell). He admitted in his book that infant baptism was practiced prior to Augustine, but that it was more of a "baby dedication" type practice but no one really knew why they should do it. He also claims that Augustine introduced determinism into Christianity based on what he was taught and believed as a Manichaean, and since Calvinism is a form of modern Augustinianism, Calvinism is based on gnosticism. In a video, Wilson claims, "At the end of my book, I list all of the Scriptures used by the Manichaeans to support their doctrines. And guess which ones they are? They’re the very ones the Calvinists use today." (link to video: Was Augustine the first to introduce "CALVINISM" into the Church?)
Meanwhile, Thuyen Tran, a Lutheran who has done a lot of work in studying the early fathers, has posted quite frequently on his personal Facebook page debunking many of the claims made in Dr. Wilson's dissertation (which was the basis for his book) and shown that many of the sources he claimed said one thing actually end up saying something else, or even the exact opposite.
In response, Wilson appeared on Leighton Flowers' program (link: Dr. Ken Wilson is Back!) and interacts with Thuyen's arguments at about 20:45 into the program. For the first part of the program, they basically mock most of the reviews for his book on the Amazon store page from any random person, then move on to address Thuyen's arguments. At that point, he criticizes Thuyen for not having the same academic degrees or not publishing in peer-reviewed academic journals for a minimum of several minutes before even getting to the arguments. Then Thuyen was criticized for having writing mistakes (without either knowing or acknowledging that English is a second language for him), commenting that he wouldn't make these kind of "sophomoric" mistakes if he had received proper academic training. They also laugh at him for writing more than 50 paragraphs (I don't know if that's literal or being hyperbolic) in response to Dr. Wilson's claims in his book. Wilson and Flowers then rebut strawmen of Thuyen's arguments and not his actual arguments.
(contd.)