Greetings all, I was interested in your understanding of women in church history.
First of all, before I raise any question I want to say that I do regard scriptures such as 1 Timothy 2 & 3 and Titus 1 as meaning the position of elder/pastor/teacher of the church should be filled by qualified men (the traditional interpretation) although I know I could be wrong about this.
However, as I have had conversations recently I want to reconsider some of the things that I held as reinforcement of that view.
1) Usually myself and those who agree with me say that this has been the continuous interpretation throughout this history of the church.
There are two questions I want to consider regarding this...
-Those on the other side say that this is based on a selective view of church history which ignores and disregards certain women who were in leadership positions in the early church. It was not until later centuries when a more hierarchical structure developed that this ceased. They would refer to primary text sources that detail women in such leadership positions.
-Second, many of the men/theologians we would appeal to as providing this unbroken chain of interpretation (especially the early church fathers) had views of women which we could consider appalling (even from a complimentarian standpoint). So the objection could be, why do we take their interpretation of this passage when we reject their view of women in general (many if not most in the history of the church who spoke on this issue regarded women as inferior, which I would imagine we would disagree with..most complimentarians today as I understand it affirm that men and women are equal in value but have different roles before God).
In any case, these are some of the objections I have been thinking about recently, and I would be interested to hear what you think of them? How would you respond?
Thanks everyone.
God bless,
--Ben
First of all, before I raise any question I want to say that I do regard scriptures such as 1 Timothy 2 & 3 and Titus 1 as meaning the position of elder/pastor/teacher of the church should be filled by qualified men (the traditional interpretation) although I know I could be wrong about this.
However, as I have had conversations recently I want to reconsider some of the things that I held as reinforcement of that view.
1) Usually myself and those who agree with me say that this has been the continuous interpretation throughout this history of the church.
There are two questions I want to consider regarding this...
-Those on the other side say that this is based on a selective view of church history which ignores and disregards certain women who were in leadership positions in the early church. It was not until later centuries when a more hierarchical structure developed that this ceased. They would refer to primary text sources that detail women in such leadership positions.
-Second, many of the men/theologians we would appeal to as providing this unbroken chain of interpretation (especially the early church fathers) had views of women which we could consider appalling (even from a complimentarian standpoint). So the objection could be, why do we take their interpretation of this passage when we reject their view of women in general (many if not most in the history of the church who spoke on this issue regarded women as inferior, which I would imagine we would disagree with..most complimentarians today as I understand it affirm that men and women are equal in value but have different roles before God).
In any case, these are some of the objections I have been thinking about recently, and I would be interested to hear what you think of them? How would you respond?
Thanks everyone.
God bless,
--Ben