De Jager
Puritan Board Junior
Good afternoon,
I post this in the Paedobaptist-Answers subforum because I am looking for answers from that perspective. I know there is not unanimity among Reformed folks on this article, even within the Dutch Reformed circles. Here is the article:
Since we are to judge of the will of God from His Word which testifies that the children of believers are holy, not by nature, but in virtue of the covenant of grace, in which they, together with the parents, are comprehended, godly parents have no reason to doubt of the election and salvation of their children whom it pleaseth God to call out of this life in their infancy.
In the original latin:
Quandoquidem de voluntate Dei ex verbo ipsius nobis est judicandum, quod testatur liberos fidelium esse sanctos, non quidem natura, sed beneficio fœderis gratuiti, in quo illi cum parentibus comprehenduntur, pii parentes de electione et salute suorum liberorum, quos Deus in infantia ex hac vita evocat, dubitare non debent.
Google translation to English:
Since it is for us to judge of the will of God from his word, which testifies that the children of the faithful are holy, not indeed by nature, but by the grace of a gratuitous covenant, in which they are included with their parents, pious parents concerning the election and salvation of their children, whom God, in infancy, from this life he calls out, they must not doubt.
I have spoken strongly about this article in the past, but am starting to have my own doubts about it. This is particularly pertinent to me because if I am to be an officebearer in our church, I must sign the Form of Subscription, saying I believe all points in the 3 forms of unity. I am looking for some help to better understand this article and the biblical understanding of this topic.
I affirm the following:
1. Our children are given real covenant promises, and they are promises made in good faith, by God.
2. The covenant promises are given to all our children, head for head, i.e. all those in the visible church.
3. Election is narrower than the covenant. I.e. the invisible church is within the visible church.
4. For the elect, the promises are realized through faith, and this faith is a gift of God.
5. Faith manifests itself in the life of a believer, in works of righteousness, devotion to God, etc.
6. For the reprobate, their reprobation results in never receiving this gift of faith, and thus never responding to God's promises in faith.
7. A lack of faith also manifests itself, in works of unrighteousness, indifference to God, etc.
8. Infants cannot show fruits of faith or of unbelief.
My hangup is this: since infants cannot show the fruits of faith or of unbelief, would it not be safer to simply say "we don't know" when it comes to them? You might say, that is not much of a comfort. That is true, but of course we are not entitled to every comfort. There are many things that we would like to know that God does not tell us.
Matthew Henry however, writes this, in his commentary on 2 Samuel 12, regarding the status of David's infant who died in infancy:
Godly parents have great reason to hope concerning their children that die in infancy that it is well with their souls in the other world; for the promise is to us and to our seed, which shall be performed to those that do not put a bar in their own door, as infants do not. Favores sunt ampliandi—Favours received should produce the hope of more. God calls those his children that are born unto him; and, if they be his, he will save them. This may comfort us when our children are removed from us by death, they are better provided for, both in work and wealth, than they could have been in this world. We shall be with them shortly, to part no more.
These are extremely beautiful words. And it is my conviction also, that David was convinced that his child was with the Lord, and that David would be there with him one day. The question then becomes, on what basis would David think such a thing? There is no evidence that he was given any kind of special revelation. That leaves us with relying on God's covenant promises. But my trouble with this is that we know that God's covenant promises are rejected in the lives of the reprobate. So, while all our children are given the promises, head for head, not all our children are saved, head for head. What is it about the case of infants dying in infancy that allows our forefathers to be so sure they are elect?
OR: is this article speaking only regarding the attitude of parents when they have a child who dies infancy? Something like this: God has only ever revealed his good will towards the little ones of believers - he has given his promises to them, he has provided for them in every biblical narrative, Jesus receives them when their parents bring them to Him - therefore on what basis could you possibly question their election and salvation? To question it would be to try and pry into God's secret decree?
But it seems as though the Canons say to believing parents who have lost children in infancy: "your children are heaven, and that's a 100% guarantee".
I post this in the Paedobaptist-Answers subforum because I am looking for answers from that perspective. I know there is not unanimity among Reformed folks on this article, even within the Dutch Reformed circles. Here is the article:
Since we are to judge of the will of God from His Word which testifies that the children of believers are holy, not by nature, but in virtue of the covenant of grace, in which they, together with the parents, are comprehended, godly parents have no reason to doubt of the election and salvation of their children whom it pleaseth God to call out of this life in their infancy.
In the original latin:
Quandoquidem de voluntate Dei ex verbo ipsius nobis est judicandum, quod testatur liberos fidelium esse sanctos, non quidem natura, sed beneficio fœderis gratuiti, in quo illi cum parentibus comprehenduntur, pii parentes de electione et salute suorum liberorum, quos Deus in infantia ex hac vita evocat, dubitare non debent.
Google translation to English:
Since it is for us to judge of the will of God from his word, which testifies that the children of the faithful are holy, not indeed by nature, but by the grace of a gratuitous covenant, in which they are included with their parents, pious parents concerning the election and salvation of their children, whom God, in infancy, from this life he calls out, they must not doubt.
I have spoken strongly about this article in the past, but am starting to have my own doubts about it. This is particularly pertinent to me because if I am to be an officebearer in our church, I must sign the Form of Subscription, saying I believe all points in the 3 forms of unity. I am looking for some help to better understand this article and the biblical understanding of this topic.
I affirm the following:
1. Our children are given real covenant promises, and they are promises made in good faith, by God.
2. The covenant promises are given to all our children, head for head, i.e. all those in the visible church.
3. Election is narrower than the covenant. I.e. the invisible church is within the visible church.
4. For the elect, the promises are realized through faith, and this faith is a gift of God.
5. Faith manifests itself in the life of a believer, in works of righteousness, devotion to God, etc.
6. For the reprobate, their reprobation results in never receiving this gift of faith, and thus never responding to God's promises in faith.
7. A lack of faith also manifests itself, in works of unrighteousness, indifference to God, etc.
8. Infants cannot show fruits of faith or of unbelief.
My hangup is this: since infants cannot show the fruits of faith or of unbelief, would it not be safer to simply say "we don't know" when it comes to them? You might say, that is not much of a comfort. That is true, but of course we are not entitled to every comfort. There are many things that we would like to know that God does not tell us.
Matthew Henry however, writes this, in his commentary on 2 Samuel 12, regarding the status of David's infant who died in infancy:
Godly parents have great reason to hope concerning their children that die in infancy that it is well with their souls in the other world; for the promise is to us and to our seed, which shall be performed to those that do not put a bar in their own door, as infants do not. Favores sunt ampliandi—Favours received should produce the hope of more. God calls those his children that are born unto him; and, if they be his, he will save them. This may comfort us when our children are removed from us by death, they are better provided for, both in work and wealth, than they could have been in this world. We shall be with them shortly, to part no more.
These are extremely beautiful words. And it is my conviction also, that David was convinced that his child was with the Lord, and that David would be there with him one day. The question then becomes, on what basis would David think such a thing? There is no evidence that he was given any kind of special revelation. That leaves us with relying on God's covenant promises. But my trouble with this is that we know that God's covenant promises are rejected in the lives of the reprobate. So, while all our children are given the promises, head for head, not all our children are saved, head for head. What is it about the case of infants dying in infancy that allows our forefathers to be so sure they are elect?
OR: is this article speaking only regarding the attitude of parents when they have a child who dies infancy? Something like this: God has only ever revealed his good will towards the little ones of believers - he has given his promises to them, he has provided for them in every biblical narrative, Jesus receives them when their parents bring them to Him - therefore on what basis could you possibly question their election and salvation? To question it would be to try and pry into God's secret decree?
But it seems as though the Canons say to believing parents who have lost children in infancy: "your children are heaven, and that's a 100% guarantee".